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1. Call Meeting to Order

705

After Roll Call was complete awards for the penguin plunge were presented. Mr. Mark - Director of Special Olympics - spoke Erin D - Taylor Energy and Ryan helped hand out

2. Roll Call

Roll call (10 Present, 0 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:11:35)

3. Public Participation [Per Town Council Rules, this segment of the meeting shall not exceed thirty (30) minutes unless extended by the Mayor, with the consent of the majority of the Town Council.]

Chief Reed, 45 Eldridge Circle, Police Dept. - grand opening of the Animal Shelter will take place Friday - January 1st has been opened since. - IT budget - looked over the expenditures - support expenditures. everything we do we rely on technology. important to maintain infrastructure. need to invest in infrastrucutre to keep department running. Delnicki - can a tour be set up for the Councillors who were unable to make it to the PD last week for the dispatch center.

Keith Man - John Fitch - have been trying to the last 4 months to get an up or down answer about the town being interested in the land I am willing to give to the Town. have learned that there was a report by the open space task force. at this point I am still interested in giving the land the property. if the town is not interested I do not have a problem giving the land to the someone else. Matt - will be addressing that in the Tolwn Manager's Office.

Mike Sullivan, 24 Jared Court - presentaion of the capital project budget proposal. IMay understanding is that it is the TM intention to use 267,000 line item to carry tht forward to borrow fund for capital projects. does not seem to be a good idea to borrow money for items that will not last 20 years - should explore if 267,000 gets you funding up to 2M for IT upgrades.

4. Communications

Anwar - public hearing - BOE budget - I think it is important for the public to have oppotrunity to discuss this openly before we vote on this in advance. It is worthwhile to hear all of the details - vote on it together after that. Prague - we have a CT Department of Labor item - recertification of SEIU union wanted different representation =16-1 in favor of new bargaining unit - they will be presented by this new union. Tom - they changed bargaining units Matt yes Jan - SEIU was the union now one out of Middletown yes

5. Town Manager's Report [Per Town Council Rules, this segment of the meeting shall not exceed ten (10) minutes unless extended by the Mayor, with the consent of the majority of the Council.]

Did meet with gentlemen for 45 sections but on the land record he is not the owner. the land is in trust. have to go through Probate. The Open Space did go through the property and they evaluated the property. Recommended that othe roptions be looked at - they had the idea that the land trust be looked at for this property. land has conservation - other options should be considered. Mr. Galligan stated he would also recommend that the Town not take it. The trust should get a letter to that effect. The second item tht has come up is 85 Nutmeg - recommend to dgo with other developer who was looking at this and put this property back into space. the property would be in contention - if you are going to help developer you have to develop the land. recomend move on to the other that is interested. Yagaloff - our experience with Open Space Task Force has been mixed. they do good job about managing the properties after they are purchased. They recommended against King Street - they have recommend for land that is very expensive. some times their criteria is so stringent. I would like to have this on for discussion in the future. Should consider using the property for conservation. I just don't want to turn our backs on free property. Would like to talk to the neighbors. Galligan - maybe Fitch Meadow would like it. Yagaloff - sounds like we should approach Fitch Meadow and discuss it with them. have conservation easement on that. Galligan - could have contact with them. Delnicki - maybe you would like to sponsor a resolution so that could be voted up or down. Yagaloff - have discussion with condominium. Delnicki - it will make for a good discussion. Yagaloff - we would not assume the liabilities. The Town does not allow for public input on Town Manager's Report. Anwar - Open Space Task Force looks at these properties and does a great job. Our Town was looked at for open space and have received Top Town to live in. I think the conservation we had was quite extensive any time there is a tree with the age of the tree - liability issues. there were concerns with people who work with these type of properties. the liability costs are much more than the free land. We may need to have someone from Open Space Task Force involved. Looking at this information from May Group - Group HOmes 35 people will be losing jobs. there will also be impact for the residetns. we need to figure out impacts. Galligan - we will try to reach out to them. Anwar - this would have significant impact on families - beneficiaries on group homes and those who are losing their jobs. Delnicki - I attended the same meeting with discussions with Open Space Task Force - found out about the righ of way, trees falling, Land Trust is interested in this property. A resolution would make everything clear. Snyder - debt service schedule - Galligan - updated schedule. Snyder - do at the next meeting. Anwar - received a call today from someone who is member of the Redevelopment Agency Galligan - we discussed at the last meeting (Redevelopment Agency). Anwar - you will communicate with them Galligan - yes. Prague - the Redeveoment Agency was going tomeet on Wednesday? Galligan - we could Prague - we have public hearing on Wednesay Galligan - we meet at 5:30, they are going to go May 1 Bazzano - MDC Budgeting Overview Galligan - information tha twas sent to the Town. we tried to refer them back to MDC - they shoudl be handling this. is on the website.

6. Items for Discussion

A. Volunteer Fire Department's Budget Presentation

Chief Kevin Cooney - the staff and I have worked for months on this budget. thanked the staff. it was very challenging to keep money tight. 130 members. support the IT budget. 7% increase proposal. 3% increase in operation items - 4% in---------. Peck - capital projects included generator for #2. Parking lot at Fire Headquarters. two items that also needed. We are looking at options through our own budget because it is needed. 75th Anniversary - thanked for another donation for this event from the Council. currently have 70,000 and our goal is to have 120,000. Prague - we are very proud of the Fire Department - 40,000 may sound like a lot percentage wise but it is not. 30,000 go directly to the men and women of the Volunteer Fire Department. will support your entire amount as is. Anwar - thanked the Fire Department. add that annual physical is very important. you put yourself in danger to save others and do it as Volunteers. Reducing communications? Peck - replacing radios - this year happens to be a down year. Anwar - same may be true for the fire fighting equipment Chief - we hav enot put in new technology this year. we kep our budget as tight as we could Anwar - when you reduced your equipment budget that is not putting anyone at risk? no not at all Anwar - how can people provide funds for the 75th Anniversary Chief - swfd2013.com or to the Fire Department website - there is information on both. Anwar - our community is going to celebrate anniversary - will be recognized by the whole State. two celebrations - 75th anniversary - in September we are hosting Firefighters convention. this year will be hosting it. one weekend from all over the state will be here in South Windsor. Anwar - will support this budget. Recessed at 8:00 p.m.,

Called back to order at 8:00 p.m. Bazzao - questioned about the pavement necessary at the Fire Station Peck - other than the extended pavement the pavement is original from the 70;s Bazzano - I had suggested concrete? Peck - there have been suggestions made that concrete would be a better option. have reviewed concrete to pavement Bazzano - does the Fire Department go thorugh PW for gasoline Cooney - we are looking to try to share services wit the town. We currently have a different fuel vendor - we have changed utilities electrical, gas and phone service Bazzano - the Fire Department does not use the Town's Cooney - smaller vehciles is through the town - diesel is through the Fire Department Bazzano - lights on the Fire Department all of the time? Cooney - that is a concern of ours also. Bazzano - Cooney 0 the way it was designed. Knipple - The Ambulance people are there all of the time. Snyder - you do a great job. important that the community knows that you are volunteer. on the diesel fuel you purchase tht on your own do you have individual contract or state? Cooney - on our own at this time - we are reviewing that item now. Snyder - can piggyback with the state - if you would like can call me? Cooney will call you. Snyder - EAP with Town? Cooney - Town does not have EAP that does emergency services. the mental well being of our firefighter is as important as our physical well being. Snyder - EAP for fire fighters are very imporatnt. they should have the ability to use this service. how can we go about making this happen Galligan - we coudl have them go with the Police Department. suggest that we go thorugh the police department. Snyder - that is included in the budget? yes Delnicki - front ramp at company #1 - once the weather broke you were going to look at that to piece mail it. Galligan - they are looking at hybrid - concrete to pavement - will get together with the Fire Department and Town Engineer to look at cost of this. will get with staff tomorrow and will sit down and discuss this. Delnicki - find out from Dwight whether the monies for paving could be used for Fire Department Galligan - bond counsel is looking at that but will have Dwight look at that. Delnicki - what the Fire Department does for the community is fantastic. Mental heath of the fire departmetn should be a top priority for all of us. commend the fire dpeartment on their fund raising efforts. have golf tournament coming up. Cooney - have other events coming up that will involve every one. Cooney - The Town IT department has been supportive of us. we support their budget request.

B. Fire Marshal's Budget Presentation

Walter Summers - Fire Marshal, recognize the amount of work his team has done over the past year. 1600 inspections done in town. these inspections added or replaced all of the smoke alarms. the proposed 11,930.00 is in line with TM's request of 0 percent increase. Talked about survey done by the department supported the IT Department - the inspectors and Deputy Fire Marshal work out of hte Fire Department and they are tied to Town Hall server. the upgrades that Scott has done has been tremendous and support their budget. Bazzano - how many people survey sent out to? Walter - every person that we come in contact with on the education. every inspection we give to each individual. Bazzano - out of percentage replaced, were they all replaced? Walter - Burr Meadows will all be replaced. Bazzano - Brooke Meadowns will be done htis summer the response rate for smoke detectors has been excellent. we have applied for another FEMA grant. for all of the 55 and older communities. we put in for 210,000. I do want to ask for your help, we are going to be running out of smoke detectors at the end of this budget, need suggestions on how to fund these. Anwar - share with us the status of the carbon monoxide detectors Walter - during the winter that is 70% of our calls. whenw e go out there - a lot of conod's do not hav ethose. right now we are going through Straw Bridge - we would like to run program regarding carbon monoxide. we run with the car seats every Wednesday and everyone who runs through there gets program - 70% of people do have them but do not know how old they are. we try to tell people to replace them. Anwar - the state laws are mvoing target at times. condominiums - adds significant burden to them. the goal is to make everyone safe - finding the common groudn - ar there other wasy to keep the community safe. Walter - the minor expense that we have done is to make sure the smoke alarm replacement is correct. we have found out there that they are not. add one out side the sleeping areas. we have not received any negative impact - we do work with Fire Codes - Anwar - last years budget showed video - should show in the next budget presentation. new furniture much more flamable. Prague - compliment you and your staff - see you at all the community events and public events. you might want to try the electronic or medical Summer - we only have 600 left. Prague - #23 Inspection - Summer - a lot of condo boards hav done is selected a vendor and then have a set price - what we have done with a few othe rpeople in other places is we do have a few electricians that I do know will go in and I have offered to pay for it if someone is in tha bad situation. Prague - do you install smoke detectors Summer - the battery ones we do the other we do not. Prague - may be we could have smoke detector angels. ask Human Services Summers - if Dennis does hav epeople that help out I will take those names. they are 120 voltage. Delnicki - 100% of inspectors were - have good marks. Summers - out of 1/2 the units they did find something to talk about safety to talk to residents about. number of fires are down.

C. Information Technologies Department's Budget Presentation

Scott Roberts - thanked Chief Reed, Cooney and Walter Summers - Gallilgan - there was 186,000 item and moved tht to their budget from the capital projects. It looks like there is an increase but there is not. Maintenance contrcts have gone up. Most of his budet is maintanence contracts. Mccann - very glad to hear from both the Chief of Police and the Fire Chief. the IT budget does support both those departments. One of the things that I would like to see perhaps in future budgets is which departments are included n the budget with respect to specific expendturs so we can track from time to time where IT dollars are spent and see what we get in return for those efficiencies. suggest for future budgets we realllocate the budgeting of IT items with specific line items fo rspecific deparments. tht would be helpful to all council. I am glad to see 186,000 was moved to IT Department. Scott - there is a lot of IT that is general - I could probably break it down per person. McCann - not allocating the labor costs - would like specific costs associated with specific deparmtents. Scott - we coudl do specific applications - we can give you a better understanding - not quite sure can break it totally down. McCann - I am not looking for you to slice and dice it but thereis certain equipment that is used for certain department and that is what I am looking for. WE need to understand what is being driven by some of the costs. Scott - will do our best. Yagaloff - it is very interesting to see IT field change over the last 20 years. Now provides communication for a lot of departments. to me it seems to be the backbone of the community. without components those departments would not be able to survive. we hve an exceptional department. we have joint contracts with other towns that are asking for our expertise. this capital strategy is difficult. I don't support that capital approach for IT. I am a proponent of budgeting for items on a year to year basis. I think the budget is very appropriate. Anwar - capital - glad we have moved things around but still have challenges regarding the fiber optics - will support budget except part of the fiber optics. Scott - have had residents come in and ask for tours - invite who ever would like to come in to comein. Cindy - page 141 you list the assigned positin - 2012/2013 five employees - for this budget are you down? Scott- Drew Guild was redesignated at Media Cindy - all five are represented? yes Snyder - when we recently put up the dashboard - that was one of the first ones everywhere. now towns have come to us to ask us how that was done. there is a lot of information provided to the residents of Sout WIndsor. a lot of people take that for granted. the services provided by the town - budget is put together great. the critical point is all of the infrastructure. on the capital projects side ove rthe past 5-6 years IT components have always been budgeted. to take IT items now and put into operating budget would be too muc of a hit. Capital Projects we have all worked so hard to take us to a point where we can fund infrastructure and put back into the operating budget. Galligan - am looking at financing for 10 years rather than 20 years. we lease equipment like copiers and such that we already lease. most of the items we are leasing are generators. the dashboard system was used during the storms. we could tell what roads were closed. City of Bridgeport is intereste in the system, Westport, New Britain, Newtown, OPM is interested, I have to commend these guys. CCM is also very interested. would like to see this done regionally. Mike Gantick just met with CL & P and they were interested. Scott - we need to adapt our systems to the generations coming up behind us. Galligan - we have aother town that wants us to do our IT work. Tolland is very interested. will go over this the next meeting. Snyder - like your budet and will support. Prague - the expenses is that cost savings that we are saving - can't have union paying these Scott - we are not union. Galligan - if you had this person come on as a full time employee - there is a net profit. Prague - once you put someone on full time you can't call them a contractor. Galligan - we are hiring aperson. Prague - I am opposed to this. Delnicki - looking forward to sitting down with you on Wednesday. I would encourage other Council members to do the same. we are sitting down 3:30 or 4:00 to sit down and talk.

7. Executive Session

8. Adjournment

Anwar, Snyder 9:06 p.m.

Apr 22, 2013 Town Council Special Budget Work Session

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1. Call Meeting to Order

705

After Roll Call was complete awards for the penguin plunge were presented. Mr. Mark - Director of Special Olympics - spoke Erin D - Taylor Energy and Ryan helped hand out

2. Roll Call

Roll call (10 Present, 0 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:11:35)

3. Public Participation [Per Town Council Rules, this segment of the meeting shall not exceed thirty (30) minutes unless extended by the Mayor, with the consent of the majority of the Town Council.]

Chief Reed, 45 Eldridge Circle, Police Dept. - grand opening of the Animal Shelter will take place Friday - January 1st has been opened since. - IT budget - looked over the expenditures - support expenditures. everything we do we rely on technology. important to maintain infrastructure. need to invest in infrastrucutre to keep department running. Delnicki - can a tour be set up for the Councillors who were unable to make it to the PD last week for the dispatch center.

Keith Man - John Fitch - have been trying to the last 4 months to get an up or down answer about the town being interested in the land I am willing to give to the Town. have learned that there was a report by the open space task force. at this point I am still interested in giving the land the property. if the town is not interested I do not have a problem giving the land to the someone else. Matt - will be addressing that in the Tolwn Manager's Office.

Mike Sullivan, 24 Jared Court - presentaion of the capital project budget proposal. IMay understanding is that it is the TM intention to use 267,000 line item to carry tht forward to borrow fund for capital projects. does not seem to be a good idea to borrow money for items that will not last 20 years - should explore if 267,000 gets you funding up to 2M for IT upgrades.

4. Communications

Anwar - public hearing - BOE budget - I think it is important for the public to have oppotrunity to discuss this openly before we vote on this in advance. It is worthwhile to hear all of the details - vote on it together after that. Prague - we have a CT Department of Labor item - recertification of SEIU union wanted different representation =16-1 in favor of new bargaining unit - they will be presented by this new union. Tom - they changed bargaining units Matt yes Jan - SEIU was the union now one out of Middletown yes

5. Town Manager's Report [Per Town Council Rules, this segment of the meeting shall not exceed ten (10) minutes unless extended by the Mayor, with the consent of the majority of the Council.]

Did meet with gentlemen for 45 sections but on the land record he is not the owner. the land is in trust. have to go through Probate. The Open Space did go through the property and they evaluated the property. Recommended that othe roptions be looked at - they had the idea that the land trust be looked at for this property. land has conservation - other options should be considered. Mr. Galligan stated he would also recommend that the Town not take it. The trust should get a letter to that effect. The second item tht has come up is 85 Nutmeg - recommend to dgo with other developer who was looking at this and put this property back into space. the property would be in contention - if you are going to help developer you have to develop the land. recomend move on to the other that is interested. Yagaloff - our experience with Open Space Task Force has been mixed. they do good job about managing the properties after they are purchased. They recommended against King Street - they have recommend for land that is very expensive. some times their criteria is so stringent. I would like to have this on for discussion in the future. Should consider using the property for conservation. I just don't want to turn our backs on free property. Would like to talk to the neighbors. Galligan - maybe Fitch Meadow would like it. Yagaloff - sounds like we should approach Fitch Meadow and discuss it with them. have conservation easement on that. Galligan - could have contact with them. Delnicki - maybe you would like to sponsor a resolution so that could be voted up or down. Yagaloff - have discussion with condominium. Delnicki - it will make for a good discussion. Yagaloff - we would not assume the liabilities. The Town does not allow for public input on Town Manager's Report. Anwar - Open Space Task Force looks at these properties and does a great job. Our Town was looked at for open space and have received Top Town to live in. I think the conservation we had was quite extensive any time there is a tree with the age of the tree - liability issues. there were concerns with people who work with these type of properties. the liability costs are much more than the free land. We may need to have someone from Open Space Task Force involved. Looking at this information from May Group - Group HOmes 35 people will be losing jobs. there will also be impact for the residetns. we need to figure out impacts. Galligan - we will try to reach out to them. Anwar - this would have significant impact on families - beneficiaries on group homes and those who are losing their jobs. Delnicki - I attended the same meeting with discussions with Open Space Task Force - found out about the righ of way, trees falling, Land Trust is interested in this property. A resolution would make everything clear. Snyder - debt service schedule - Galligan - updated schedule. Snyder - do at the next meeting. Anwar - received a call today from someone who is member of the Redevelopment Agency Galligan - we discussed at the last meeting (Redevelopment Agency). Anwar - you will communicate with them Galligan - yes. Prague - the Redeveoment Agency was going tomeet on Wednesday? Galligan - we could Prague - we have public hearing on Wednesay Galligan - we meet at 5:30, they are going to go May 1 Bazzano - MDC Budgeting Overview Galligan - information tha twas sent to the Town. we tried to refer them back to MDC - they shoudl be handling this. is on the website.

6. Items for Discussion

A. Volunteer Fire Department's Budget Presentation

Chief Kevin Cooney - the staff and I have worked for months on this budget. thanked the staff. it was very challenging to keep money tight. 130 members. support the IT budget. 7% increase proposal. 3% increase in operation items - 4% in---------. Peck - capital projects included generator for #2. Parking lot at Fire Headquarters. two items that also needed. We are looking at options through our own budget because it is needed. 75th Anniversary - thanked for another donation for this event from the Council. currently have 70,000 and our goal is to have 120,000. Prague - we are very proud of the Fire Department - 40,000 may sound like a lot percentage wise but it is not. 30,000 go directly to the men and women of the Volunteer Fire Department. will support your entire amount as is. Anwar - thanked the Fire Department. add that annual physical is very important. you put yourself in danger to save others and do it as Volunteers. Reducing communications? Peck - replacing radios - this year happens to be a down year. Anwar - same may be true for the fire fighting equipment Chief - we hav enot put in new technology this year. we kep our budget as tight as we could Anwar - when you reduced your equipment budget that is not putting anyone at risk? no not at all Anwar - how can people provide funds for the 75th Anniversary Chief - swfd2013.com or to the Fire Department website - there is information on both. Anwar - our community is going to celebrate anniversary - will be recognized by the whole State. two celebrations - 75th anniversary - in September we are hosting Firefighters convention. this year will be hosting it. one weekend from all over the state will be here in South Windsor. Anwar - will support this budget. Recessed at 8:00 p.m.,

Called back to order at 8:00 p.m. Bazzao - questioned about the pavement necessary at the Fire Station Peck - other than the extended pavement the pavement is original from the 70;s Bazzano - I had suggested concrete? Peck - there have been suggestions made that concrete would be a better option. have reviewed concrete to pavement Bazzano - does the Fire Department go thorugh PW for gasoline Cooney - we are looking to try to share services wit the town. We currently have a different fuel vendor - we have changed utilities electrical, gas and phone service Bazzano - the Fire Department does not use the Town's Cooney - smaller vehciles is through the town - diesel is through the Fire Department Bazzano - lights on the Fire Department all of the time? Cooney - that is a concern of ours also. Bazzano - Cooney 0 the way it was designed. Knipple - The Ambulance people are there all of the time. Snyder - you do a great job. important that the community knows that you are volunteer. on the diesel fuel you purchase tht on your own do you have individual contract or state? Cooney - on our own at this time - we are reviewing that item now. Snyder - can piggyback with the state - if you would like can call me? Cooney will call you. Snyder - EAP with Town? Cooney - Town does not have EAP that does emergency services. the mental well being of our firefighter is as important as our physical well being. Snyder - EAP for fire fighters are very imporatnt. they should have the ability to use this service. how can we go about making this happen Galligan - we coudl have them go with the Police Department. suggest that we go thorugh the police department. Snyder - that is included in the budget? yes Delnicki - front ramp at company #1 - once the weather broke you were going to look at that to piece mail it. Galligan - they are looking at hybrid - concrete to pavement - will get together with the Fire Department and Town Engineer to look at cost of this. will get with staff tomorrow and will sit down and discuss this. Delnicki - find out from Dwight whether the monies for paving could be used for Fire Department Galligan - bond counsel is looking at that but will have Dwight look at that. Delnicki - what the Fire Department does for the community is fantastic. Mental heath of the fire departmetn should be a top priority for all of us. commend the fire dpeartment on their fund raising efforts. have golf tournament coming up. Cooney - have other events coming up that will involve every one. Cooney - The Town IT department has been supportive of us. we support their budget request.

B. Fire Marshal's Budget Presentation

Walter Summers - Fire Marshal, recognize the amount of work his team has done over the past year. 1600 inspections done in town. these inspections added or replaced all of the smoke alarms. the proposed 11,930.00 is in line with TM's request of 0 percent increase. Talked about survey done by the department supported the IT Department - the inspectors and Deputy Fire Marshal work out of hte Fire Department and they are tied to Town Hall server. the upgrades that Scott has done has been tremendous and support their budget. Bazzano - how many people survey sent out to? Walter - every person that we come in contact with on the education. every inspection we give to each individual. Bazzano - out of percentage replaced, were they all replaced? Walter - Burr Meadows will all be replaced. Bazzano - Brooke Meadowns will be done htis summer the response rate for smoke detectors has been excellent. we have applied for another FEMA grant. for all of the 55 and older communities. we put in for 210,000. I do want to ask for your help, we are going to be running out of smoke detectors at the end of this budget, need suggestions on how to fund these. Anwar - share with us the status of the carbon monoxide detectors Walter - during the winter that is 70% of our calls. whenw e go out there - a lot of conod's do not hav ethose. right now we are going through Straw Bridge - we would like to run program regarding carbon monoxide. we run with the car seats every Wednesday and everyone who runs through there gets program - 70% of people do have them but do not know how old they are. we try to tell people to replace them. Anwar - the state laws are mvoing target at times. condominiums - adds significant burden to them. the goal is to make everyone safe - finding the common groudn - ar there other wasy to keep the community safe. Walter - the minor expense that we have done is to make sure the smoke alarm replacement is correct. we have found out there that they are not. add one out side the sleeping areas. we have not received any negative impact - we do work with Fire Codes - Anwar - last years budget showed video - should show in the next budget presentation. new furniture much more flamable. Prague - compliment you and your staff - see you at all the community events and public events. you might want to try the electronic or medical Summer - we only have 600 left. Prague - #23 Inspection - Summer - a lot of condo boards hav done is selected a vendor and then have a set price - what we have done with a few othe rpeople in other places is we do have a few electricians that I do know will go in and I have offered to pay for it if someone is in tha bad situation. Prague - do you install smoke detectors Summer - the battery ones we do the other we do not. Prague - may be we could have smoke detector angels. ask Human Services Summers - if Dennis does hav epeople that help out I will take those names. they are 120 voltage. Delnicki - 100% of inspectors were - have good marks. Summers - out of 1/2 the units they did find something to talk about safety to talk to residents about. number of fires are down.

C. Information Technologies Department's Budget Presentation

Scott Roberts - thanked Chief Reed, Cooney and Walter Summers - Gallilgan - there was 186,000 item and moved tht to their budget from the capital projects. It looks like there is an increase but there is not. Maintenance contrcts have gone up. Most of his budet is maintanence contracts. Mccann - very glad to hear from both the Chief of Police and the Fire Chief. the IT budget does support both those departments. One of the things that I would like to see perhaps in future budgets is which departments are included n the budget with respect to specific expendturs so we can track from time to time where IT dollars are spent and see what we get in return for those efficiencies. suggest for future budgets we realllocate the budgeting of IT items with specific line items fo rspecific deparments. tht would be helpful to all council. I am glad to see 186,000 was moved to IT Department. Scott - there is a lot of IT that is general - I could probably break it down per person. McCann - not allocating the labor costs - would like specific costs associated with specific deparmtents. Scott - we coudl do specific applications - we can give you a better understanding - not quite sure can break it totally down. McCann - I am not looking for you to slice and dice it but thereis certain equipment that is used for certain department and that is what I am looking for. WE need to understand what is being driven by some of the costs. Scott - will do our best. Yagaloff - it is very interesting to see IT field change over the last 20 years. Now provides communication for a lot of departments. to me it seems to be the backbone of the community. without components those departments would not be able to survive. we hve an exceptional department. we have joint contracts with other towns that are asking for our expertise. this capital strategy is difficult. I don't support that capital approach for IT. I am a proponent of budgeting for items on a year to year basis. I think the budget is very appropriate. Anwar - capital - glad we have moved things around but still have challenges regarding the fiber optics - will support budget except part of the fiber optics. Scott - have had residents come in and ask for tours - invite who ever would like to come in to comein. Cindy - page 141 you list the assigned positin - 2012/2013 five employees - for this budget are you down? Scott- Drew Guild was redesignated at Media Cindy - all five are represented? yes Snyder - when we recently put up the dashboard - that was one of the first ones everywhere. now towns have come to us to ask us how that was done. there is a lot of information provided to the residents of Sout WIndsor. a lot of people take that for granted. the services provided by the town - budget is put together great. the critical point is all of the infrastructure. on the capital projects side ove rthe past 5-6 years IT components have always been budgeted. to take IT items now and put into operating budget would be too muc of a hit. Capital Projects we have all worked so hard to take us to a point where we can fund infrastructure and put back into the operating budget. Galligan - am looking at financing for 10 years rather than 20 years. we lease equipment like copiers and such that we already lease. most of the items we are leasing are generators. the dashboard system was used during the storms. we could tell what roads were closed. City of Bridgeport is intereste in the system, Westport, New Britain, Newtown, OPM is interested, I have to commend these guys. CCM is also very interested. would like to see this done regionally. Mike Gantick just met with CL & P and they were interested. Scott - we need to adapt our systems to the generations coming up behind us. Galligan - we have aother town that wants us to do our IT work. Tolland is very interested. will go over this the next meeting. Snyder - like your budet and will support. Prague - the expenses is that cost savings that we are saving - can't have union paying these Scott - we are not union. Galligan - if you had this person come on as a full time employee - there is a net profit. Prague - once you put someone on full time you can't call them a contractor. Galligan - we are hiring aperson. Prague - I am opposed to this. Delnicki - looking forward to sitting down with you on Wednesday. I would encourage other Council members to do the same. we are sitting down 3:30 or 4:00 to sit down and talk.

7. Executive Session

8. Adjournment

Anwar, Snyder 9:06 p.m.

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